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new builder needs help w/radiator
by fancycar
Posted: 07/25/2002 20:45 EST

Hi guys & gals, I am setting my 31' tudor/327 up with a Walker radiator and shroud and have a few questions. I am using a belt fan with a waterpump riser and as I am ready to cut a hole in the shroud I noticed the fan is off center to drivers side quite a bit. The radiator is centered. Is this ok? Glad I wend with a 13" fan as a 15" might not have had enough room. Also, what is the best way to mount the shroud? Walker sends 4 sheetmetal screws and tells you to mount in frame. Too close for my comfort. I think I figured a bracket setup I can make. Thanks Rick
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by Deuce
Posted: 07/26/2002 00:18 EST

If you are planning on having a hood on the Model A, put it on and fit it before cutting the hole. The radiator may be centered but not where you want it to make the hood fit. I have this same water pump set up and a Walker radiator on my DEUCE roadster and I am using a 18" fan. My engine is offset 3/4" away from the steering box to gain clearance for the exhaust. Yours may be offset also. I believe most professional chassis builders do this. My frame is a original 32 boxed and done here in SC, not a aftermarket frame.

Be careful and the 4 screws will work great to hold the shroud. You should not have any problems cooling a 327. They are easy to cool.

Be sure to plumb the hose out of the passenger side head like the instructions tell you to do. You will not cool as well if you do not.


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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by couper
Posted: 07/26/2002 08:54 EST

The four screws will work like Deuce says, even though they look REAL close to hitting the radiator. The srews had a habit of vibrating loose until I put a drop of threadlock on them and retightening.
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by fancycar
Posted: 07/26/2002 19:26 EST

Deuce, thanks for the tips. Please explain in more detail about plumbing out side. Still Learning. Rick
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by Deuce
Posted: 07/27/2002 00:30 EST



Rick....did you get the water pump riser new? They come with a instruction paper that tells which 6 cylinder water pump to use, which pulleys to use, suggested radiator hoses & ect. It also tells you to plumb a heater hose from the head (there is a threaded hole bewteen cylinder #6 and #8 on most) back to the nipple on the 6 cylinder water pump.

I also recommend a FlowCooler plate on the impeller of the water pump to improve efficiency. Summit sells them for about $5. Buy one for a small block Chevrolet, it will work great on the 6 cylinder water pump.

If you did not get a paper with yours I could FAX you a copy.

I would not have a 32 without a raised water pump set up. They work great.


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Same Wife, Same DEUCE Roadster, Same Job for over 20 years. Must be in a rut. AIN'T LIFE GRAND.....

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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by fancycar
Posted: 07/27/2002 21:28 EST

Deuce, I did buy the kit brand new. The sheet I got could hardly be read, just a mimeograph. My Edelbrock manifold has a nipple for the heater hose coming out the front. Should I block that off and run from head like you suggested? I just love the whole idea of this set-up, and I will take your advice on the flow cooler plate. Thanks, Rick
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by Deuce
Posted: 07/27/2002 23:18 EST



On 1932 Street Rods I never ran the hose from the intake like you mention. It might do just as well. I always ran the hose from between #6 and #8. It uncluttered the front of the engine.
I bought my pump raiser over 15 years ago and the printing was very readable. They recommend taking the water out of the head way back then. I have seen other posts here where SRS members have used this set up with great sucess. Maybe some of them can comment on their experiences and how they plumbed theirs......
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by fixitman
Posted: 07/28/2002 15:26 EST

I am running the riser water pump on my 33 Dodge. I started out with the hose from the top nipple plumbed into the front of the intake manifold. I had all kinds of heating problems and erratic thermostat problems. I finally plumbed it into the head like the instructions said and all problems went away, runs on a steady 180 degrees now. I think I will try the flow plate on the pump impellar as Deuce suggests. Malcolm
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by fancycar
Posted: 07/28/2002 21:16 EST

Guys, Thanks for the help. I ordered the waterpump plate from Summit tonight. I JUST WISH i HAD MORE TIME TO PLAY ON THIS SITE. You will be hearing from me with lots more questions. Bought a pair of original rear fenders for my Tudor for 30.00 each that need minimal work. Its a good day. Rick
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RE: new builder needs help w/radiator
by fancycar
Posted: 07/26/2002 19:28 EST

Couper, I am still nervous about those screws and thanks for tip on locktite. Rick
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