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Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by nitrofc
Posted: 11/19/2002 15:07 EST

Okay .. Since I am in the Telecom Biz I thought I pass this little tid bit on to my friends.
SUBJECT: 809 area code

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T.
DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809

This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call. Be sure you read this and pass it on to all your friends and family so they don't get scammed!

MAJOR SCAM:
Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell you to call an "809" Phone Number. This is a very important issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading *extremely* quickly can easily cost you $2400 or more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it. We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our attention. This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lots of money. There are lots of different permutations of this scam.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:

You will receive a message on your answering machine or your pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be to receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls.

If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute. Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,100.00.

WHY IT WORKS:

The 809 area code is located in the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a "pay-per-call" number.

There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, whereas many U.S. homes that have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, do not work in preventing calls to the 809 area code. We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize just disregard the message. Be wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong. !

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and ex-wifes


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"Big Al" Liebmann
"Righty Tidy..Lefty Loosey"

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RE: Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by bowtie36mc
Posted: 11/19/2002 18:25 EST

809-what is it I want to give it to my X-wife!!LOL
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Mike,Charter DRSA Member


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RE: Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by slick
Posted: 11/19/2002 18:31 EST

Mike.....just be sure she don't send the bill back to you,by way of her lawyer !!!!



Everyone has the right to be stupid..........
But I believe I have abused it !!!!!
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My wife said if I buy one more car, she's leaving.
Man I'm going to miss that girl!!!

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RE: Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by zonkola
Posted: 11/20/2002 21:11 EST

While there are indeed some scamsters out there running up people's phone bills using the 809 area code, the reports of financial distress have been somewhat exaggerated as the news has made it's rounds on the Internet. The exposure is more along the lines of $25 per minute, and the news of this scam is reportedly much more widespread than the scam itself.

The 809 area code isn't just about scams, either. It's still a legitimate area code if you're calling someone in the Dominican Republic.

Some sources to check for more info:

http://www.scambusters.org/809Scam.html
http://hoaxinfo.com/809scam.htm
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/809.htm

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

-W!

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RE: Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by daffy
Posted: 11/21/2002 18:36 EST

I've heard of this scam, but here's what I'd like to know:

How do they make you pay? If this shows up on my bill, I tell them to kiss my butt. How they gonna make me pay from Timbuktu? Here's another thought. Years ago, the telephone company had you by the ..... (remember the gal on "Laugh-In)You either did it their way, or no service. Now you throw your phone and their "wiring" away and go all cell.
Understand that I've got some freedom here as my Int. connection is wireless. I don't need the darn tel. company, they need me.

Daffy



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RE: Not Car stuff .. Just Phone Sense !
by Fred
Posted: 11/21/2002 18:43 EST

"snort snort".....is this the party to whom I am speaking??? It seems you have been a bit delinquint on your phone bill and we will send someone to your home named Bruno who will help you in this matter! "snort snort" *cough*..FredP
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Fred P.

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